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'Just take the f****** picture!'

PeterH
Prince Philip made the news today by telling a photographer commissioned to photograph him with some veterans at the RAF Club to 'take the f****** picture'. Now we don't know how long the photographer took to set the picture up but I have sympathy with the photographer who probably had less than a couple of minutes to get the photo! It's not like he could go back and do it again.
I have a wedding coming up for which I am lead photographer and to be honest I'm scared witless that my images won't be in focus, or wrongly exposed or the bride has her eyes shut at the crucial moment. I've also been approached to photograph the CEO of Kleinwort Benson for which no doubt I won't have more than a few minutes to set up the lighting and get a few shots.
Anyone been in this situation, or have any tips? Club outing to the wedding venue??
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Bazza
Consider the wisdom of Karsh taking the famous photograph of Churchill

He was in no mood for portraiture and two minutes were all that he would allow me as he passed from the House of Commons chamber to an anteroom. Two niggardly minutes in which I must try to put on film a man who had already written or inspired a library of books, baffled all his biographers, filled the world with his fame, and me, on this occasion, with dread.
Church had not been told that he would be photographed on this occasion. He relented, but at the same time pulled out a cigar, lit it, and began puffing away.

Here’s what happened next, in Karsh’s words:

Churchill’s cigar was ever present. I held out an ashtray, but he would not dispose of it. I went back to my camera and made sure that everything was all right technically. I waited; he continued to chomp vigorously at his cigar. I waited. Then I stepped toward him and, without premeditation, but ever so respectfully, I said, “Forgive me, sir,” and plucked the cigar out of his mouth. By the time I got back to my camera, he looked so belligerent he could have devoured me. It was at that instant that I took the photograph.

http://www.petapixel.com/assets/uploads/2013/03/churchillportrait1.jpg

Best of luck!


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I'd definitely use the motor drive and take advantage of however many frames your camera can take per second.  You'll have at least one with eyes open.  One less think not to worry about. 

On 11 Jul 2015 16:20, "PeterH [via Orpington Photographic Society Forum]" <[hidden email]> wrote:
Prince Philip made the news today by telling a photographer commissioned to photograph him with some veterans at the RAF Club to 'take the f****** picture'. Now we don't know how long the photographer took to set the picture up but I have sympathy with the photographer who probably had less than a couple of minutes to get the photo! It's not like he could go back and do it again.
I have a wedding coming up for which I am lead photographer and to be honest I'm scared witless that my images won't be in focus, or wrongly exposed or the bride has her eyes shut at the crucial moment. I've also been approached to photograph the CEO of Kleinwort Benson for which no doubt I won't have more than a few minutes to set up the lighting and get a few shots.
Anyone been in this situation, or have any tips? Club outing to the wedding venue??


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PeterH wrote
Prince Philip made the news today by telling...
Anyone been in this situation, or have any tips?
Yes on more than one occasion the same has been directed at me but if you hold your ground and explain, without being a wet rag, he'd normally see reason. If that works for him it should work for most others.

As for taking photos I can add no advice...
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Peter - I have a recent Digital Camera magazine (June 2015) that has a feature on wedding photography.  It runs to 12 pages and covers all the main events and includes a few checklists.  I am happy to drop it off at your house if you're interested.  
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That might be very helpful! Thanks. 



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Peter - I have a recent Digital Camera magazine (June 2015) that has a feature on wedding photography.  It runs to 12 pages and covers all the main events and includes a few checklists.  I am happy to drop it off at your house if you're interested.  


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Hi Peter,

For the wedding, I would:
1) visit 1-2 weeks prior at the given time so you can get a feel for the light,  the venue, and then pre-vision the set of shots you will need (no doubt a checklist would be wise as on the day you are likely to be in a run & gun situation.
2) I think most wedding photogs use lens f2.8 and faster try to blend the various light sources as they occur (which hopefully your scouting trip would uncover) when day light fades to night.
3) Take all the batteries, chargers, memory cards you can as running out of any would be hard to explain to the couple.
4) possibly ask a friend to come along to support and or take mood shots or long exposure shots you might not have time for
5) direct people and posing with confidence even if you're lying through your teeth!

For your CEO, I would:
1) visit the office a week before and scout out the best location for lighting and controlling it
2) have a plan for a standard headshot and ask a staff member to sit for you to check your light settings 30 minutes prior
3) have a plan for 1-2 "industrial" portraits where you capture more of the surroundings the CEO works under and hopefully relaxes him (could be a good starting point): I would add that this is the newer and fresher approach to corporate shots.

I hope this helps somewhat...


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That might be very helpful! Thanks. 



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Peter - I have a recent Digital Camera magazine (June 2015) that has a feature on wedding photography.  It runs to 12 pages and covers all the main events and includes a few checklists.  I am happy to drop it off at your house if you're interested.  


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Brian

All very helpful and sound advice. I have visited the venue twice and will go back a week before to see lighting conditions etc.
I also have a second shooter lined up which will help. 
The bride to be is a foot taller than the groom (probably more in heels!) so another challenge 😩
P



On 14 Jul 2015, at 12:48, Brian K [via Orpington Photographic Society Forum] <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi Peter,

For the wedding, I would:
1) visit 1-2 weeks prior at the given time so you can get a feel for the light,  the venue, and then pre-vision the set of shots you will need (no doubt a checklist would be wise as on the day you are likely to be in a run & gun situation.
2) I think most wedding photogs use lens f2.8 and faster try to blend the various light sources as they occur (which hopefully your scouting trip would uncover) when day light fades to night.
3) Take all the batteries, chargers, memory cards you can as running out of any would be hard to explain to the couple.
4) possibly ask a friend to come along to support and or take mood shots or long exposure shots you might not have time for
5) direct people and posing with confidence even if you're lying through your teeth!

For your CEO, I would:
1) visit the office a week before and scout out the best location for lighting and controlling it
2) have a plan for a standard headshot and ask a staff member to sit for you to check your light settings 30 minutes prior
3) have a plan for 1-2 "industrial" portraits where you capture more of the surroundings the CEO works under and hopefully relaxes him (could be a good starting point): I would add that this is the newer and fresher approach to corporate shots.

I hope this helps somewhat...


On Mon, 13 Jul 2015 11:05 am PeterH [via Orpington Photographic Society Forum] <[hidden email]> wrote:
That might be very helpful! Thanks. 



On 13 Jul 2015, at 09:39, Chris Sawyer [via Orpington Photographic Society Forum] <[hidden email]> wrote:

Peter - I have a recent Digital Camera magazine (June 2015) that has a feature on wedding photography.  It runs to 12 pages and covers all the main events and includes a few checklists.  I am happy to drop it off at your house if you're interested.  


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Brian K
Wow, that's gonna be fun, lol. Well, I guess you can't really fake reality there and I'm sure they're already caught on. But if the venue has some steps somewhere maybe you can get a nice cropped downward shot of the couple without seeing his feet are 1-2 steps higher than hers. Other than that maybe the bride can lift the groom above her head light a weight bar? 

I'm sure you'll spot the opportunities as they come. Have fun.
Bri

On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 2:08 PM, PeterH [via Orpington Photographic Society Forum] <[hidden email]> wrote:
Brian

All very helpful and sound advice. I have visited the venue twice and will go back a week before to see lighting conditions etc.
I also have a second shooter lined up which will help. 
The bride to be is a foot taller than the groom (probably more in heels!) so another challenge 😩
P



On 14 Jul 2015, at 12:48, Brian K [via Orpington Photographic Society Forum] <[hidden email]> wrote:

Hi Peter,

For the wedding, I would:
1) visit 1-2 weeks prior at the given time so you can get a feel for the light,  the venue, and then pre-vision the set of shots you will need (no doubt a checklist would be wise as on the day you are likely to be in a run & gun situation.
2) I think most wedding photogs use lens f2.8 and faster try to blend the various light sources as they occur (which hopefully your scouting trip would uncover) when day light fades to night.
3) Take all the batteries, chargers, memory cards you can as running out of any would be hard to explain to the couple.
4) possibly ask a friend to come along to support and or take mood shots or long exposure shots you might not have time for
5) direct people and posing with confidence even if you're lying through your teeth!

For your CEO, I would:
1) visit the office a week before and scout out the best location for lighting and controlling it
2) have a plan for a standard headshot and ask a staff member to sit for you to check your light settings 30 minutes prior
3) have a plan for 1-2 "industrial" portraits where you capture more of the surroundings the CEO works under and hopefully relaxes him (could be a good starting point): I would add that this is the newer and fresher approach to corporate shots.

I hope this helps somewhat...


On Mon, 13 Jul 2015 11:05 am PeterH [via Orpington Photographic Society Forum] <[hidden email]> wrote:
That might be very helpful! Thanks. 



On 13 Jul 2015, at 09:39, Chris Sawyer [via Orpington Photographic Society Forum] <[hidden email]> wrote:

Peter - I have a recent Digital Camera magazine (June 2015) that has a feature on wedding photography.  It runs to 12 pages and covers all the main events and includes a few checklists.  I am happy to drop it off at your house if you're interested.  


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